I am enlightened. 59 votes 26 votes It's one thing to discuss whether "this is she" is required, optional, or archaic. I think the only reasonable position is that usage is the final arbiter. So this is she and she is this; “she” and “this” are one and the same, interchangeable, and to be truly interchangeable they must both play the same grammatical role—that of the subject. ", 1 vote I prefer the sound of, "this is she", but I don't cringe when I hear, "this is her", anymore. If it was true that modern English took the nominative after "be", we would say things like "That's they over there" or "The man who murdered Poirot is he!". You might not want to use slang just because everyone else is using it. I thought John and AO solved this problem already?! Your very argument will soon fail you, and 10 years down the line, the "archaic" may get a retro-revival, all thanks to these New Asian English Speakers. Used to refer to the female person or animal previously mentioned or … you must answer "This is we.". However, it IS how many native speakers speak.   Report Abuse. P.S. Do you prefer part or spread ? Note: When printed, this page will be formatted correctly for use as a handout. But there are many different kinds of English, and standard English is just one kind. To communicate? It is also not helpful to say "Go ahead and speed. ", Is it just me (is it just I) or am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? "Anonymous".. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage page 568: Actually, John, Abby Normal's analogy with speed limit rules is right on target. This is from Ronald Wardhaugh's "Proper English," which I recommend if you are interested in this at all: Whatever a grammar of a language is, it is largely impervious to human intervention. See more. >This is because you can ask, "May I please speak TO her?" When she answers that she’s the one who had answered the call, she’s (obviously) speaking at the time.   Permalink 'Sarah' replaced 'She' and Sarah's' replaced 'Her'.If Sarah were to be asked "May I speak with Sarah? But when you swap the phrase, you swap the pronouns. He's right. The first known use of she's was in 1588. English is, after all, native to England, where the most common response we would have received from the great literary figures while English developed would have been: "Who are you?"" She's definition: She's is the usual spoken form of 'she is'. I see no difference between that and the telephone answer, this.is.her, Do you have a question? which one is it? ‘She’ is the nominative form of the word, so it cannot be used to describe somebody who is the object of a sentence (in this example, ‘this’ would be the subject). There's no sense in which this describes an action, but it definitely takes accusative, not nominative, case: I have her and she has me. The problem is, for nearly 2 years, I think the discussion is not gone in the right direction. There is clearly, even among linguists, a division over whether it is correct to say "This is her" or "This is she" which leads me to suggest that this is a poor construction to use. It is ridiculous to think that just because you have some bad habits, the rules of grammar must be changed to make speech more comfortable for you. I really felt bad after a phone interview when I said "This is her". I'm not sure what you're trying to say with Shakespeare. ""She is taller than me.".   Report Abuse, Scenerio#1: Your name is Jane. A common example is the phrase “This is she.” used to answer a telephone. But, alas, in the future I think I will just avoid the controversy in general. It’s okay if she does, because you know that I know, so it’s okay now. 'This is she' sounds better in my head, so it is a relief that many people consider it grammatically correct. If the subject is "that" then "be" must be third person singular ("is"). 'Tis I, Willy Shakespeare, the Great..."Clearly, an answer in favor of "it is she", therefore "this is she", not "this is her." But, again, thanks. 19 votes Does she part for you? Linguists are not in the business of telling people what is "correct" or "incorrect." She seems to be going through some hard times. So the rule does not describe the facts of usage. To insist that nominative pronouns must follow "be" is to ignore the facts. Not ON Krio.   Permalink grammar, spelling and punctuation, through to language teaching, "me and my friend are going out" is how many native speakers use their language. >But instead you are replacing the word "I" with "this" > and "Sarah" with the nominative pronoun, in this case "she.".   Permalink Were you never taught this in Elementary school, or by your parents? Unless you are assuming the social obligation of telling someone exactly to whom it is that they are speaking. I've always said "this is she" on the phone, because my mother taught me to say it this way. I'm sorry to say none of those who answered understood the question. I have always heard it said "this is she," and that is the right way of saying it. Also provides access to questions CORRECT ANSWER: # 3Furthermore, I've never heard callers begin a phone conversation by asking: "Who is Jane?" Learn More her favorite word might also be yo! However, most people drive a little over the speed limit, some, a lot. - That's I. Reality Check #1:This discussion has been going on for a YEAR! career development, specialisations, and ideas and suggestions for or fill in the name and email fields below: When you say "this is her/she," you are not implying the word "speaking." - in certain compound constructions after a preposition, for instance "between you and I". Lots of people say "this is her". If you are a person who absolutely MUST quantify statements, then I suppose "This is Jane" would be most situationally and gramatically correct. And by "educated speakers" I mean my friends who have Canadian university degrees. No one says "this is she." Done.). Instructions: Choose the correct answer. How to use chichi in a sentence. Slang expressions and spellings are overwhelming the English language these days anyway. What is it about 2 pronouns conjoined by "and" that makes them behave differently than a single pronoun? Thank you, all!! So which is which? But even for those people, using the subject case after "be" is only used in a restricted set of cases.   Report Abuse. "This is she" may be the construction of choice as per a consensus of style manuals, but to follow, for example, "May I speak to her?"   Permalink Avrom, here is an allegedly complete list of english copula: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_copulas. It sure seems like it; I can't think of another that works this way. Submit your question here. and quizzes, PDF lesson plans, teacher articles and a directory of The learning of English in China, at least, requires the reliance on prescriptive rules, and at a young age of junior school, they are taught these so-called 'dead-rules', or 'snobbish English rules', which is an irony since these prescriptivisms derive themselves from the West. Languages don't always make sense analytically. Language plays such a fundamental role in structuring the Universe itself (down to the smallest sub-atomic particle) that pointing out its plasticity is, frankly, quite scary. ", I understand and appreciate both sides of this discussion, that there are rules that should be respected and adhered to regardless of "common" (i.e. What we can do is try to influence some of the minor outcomes, for example, try to insist that people say "I drank" instead of "I drunk" or "It's I" instead of "It's me". >but in that case, you are using it directly. If you don't like the answer, too bad. In this whole forum, nobody has established an absolute, clear-cut rule. John states that his friends who say this are well-educated. or "You are smarter than I am." Now, so many say "this is her" that "this is she" sounds funny and wrong. 66 votes The nominative case word is "she.". Listen to John!   Report Abuse. A speech pattern I believe I was rather obviously against. As you have said many times, linguistics isn't concerned with prescriptive "correctness".   Report Abuse. I had a friend of mine who is a high school ESL teacher try to tell me that it´s incorrect to say: I´ve looked all over to see if there is any truth to this suggestion and the closest thing I found to a treatment of this was in the Raymond Murphy grammar book in which they said you can use EITHER "You are smarter than me." You do hear it, but not commonly, and never from anyone well-educated, usually from a small child. Not me! As such, it connects not subject and object, but two noun phrases of the same case. Or perhaps it is because when I do, if someone asks if I am there, I say, "Wait a minute, I'll check.". The correct way to phrase the example would be “This is… According to that logic, every noun should take exactly the same pronoun regardless of its case. It implies to me that there is a Manual of English that explains the hard and fast rules of all English for all time, and also that such rules even exist. Is she good? Take it now and find out if she likes you! Well, yah, of course we get ignored or insulted! The predicate nominative indicates what the subject IS rather than what the subject DOES. pron. 5 adorable Korean child actors who became K-drama A-listers as adults. Knowing that more or fewer people use a particular twist of speech today than a few years ago, however interesting, does not mean that there are no language "rules" in English. I cannot count the number of men I’d like to slap in the head when they ask me if a girl is into them and they … I don't say '"It is I". own real-life telephone calls.   Report Abuse. And to those of us that are looking for answers with more research, please remember that Wikipedia is yet another website with postings from mere 'native' speakers. Also, I wonder about the cognitive dissonance produced by thinking that something is "technically correct" but seldom used. 80 votes That is, the really interesting rules and principles are so basic that we cannot do anything at all about them. As I said before, it is useful to distinguish between opinions about "correctness" and how the language is actually used. after reading this entire page i still have no clue what to say to my students on monday. This is the difference between an "action" verb and a "linking" verb. that should be "What about languages without prescriptive manuals" of course... 0 vote So “she is this” but “this is her”. >We use "a" before a consonant sound and "an" before a vowel sound. In our corner of the world, language is the yardstick that we use to measure each other's intelligence. In any case Cal and Jess are correct in that one must live up to rules and not the other way around. 37 votes If so, I'd greatly appreciate a link. The fact that linguistics is not concerned with rules or correctness does NOT mean that rules or correctness do not exist. It is only concerned with observing how some people speak. Example, "He is the best runner." Then "him" in the following example should be "he"? https://textranch.com/703/what-did-she-do/or/what-did-she-does This is what linguistic anthropologists do! A lot of what we've been taught about "correct grammar" and grammar in general is unhelpful and often wrong. Umm… the fact that pronouns in the objective case take the objective case? How do we determine what is correct? All these opinions worth exactly the .00 you paid for them :). If I may make an analogy, speeding is illegal almost everywhere on the planet. Everybody does it. No one is obligated to answer a question exactly as phrased. So both “It is I” and “It is me” are wrong, since “it” is third person, and “I” and “me” are first. Use "she" b/c it is the predicate nominative case (the implied sentence is, "this person speaking is she"). And if they are truly interchangeable, why must they take the same CASE, but not the same PERSON? Being the object of a preposition is irrelevant. Rules are some arbitrary irrelevant thing made up by society. Interestingly, this doesn't mean that you always use the nominative form.   Permalink   Report Abuse. The verb “to be” acts as a linking verb, equating subject and object. I find your comments about "special ed" and "trailer parks" rather rude and completely out of line. Sian, If you look up "shall" at dictionary.com, there is a somewhat abstruse usage note about "shall" vs. "will". This question is a red herring; the answer has nothing to do with the "it is I/it's me" argument. authors and contributors. "You're speaking to Jane.". http://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/Summer_2004/ling001/lecture1.html, 10 votes As these new denominations of linguistic currency circulate online, English's lexical bank grows richer by the day. Should I? Grammatical Relativity.   Permalink If so, she’s using you. I tend to get nervous when language is used as a tool for social demarcation - much like a previous comment which equated improper usage with mental deficiency or low social status. Sorry to come in at the end -- but could anyone tell me what they think of this angle? I do say "this is she" as a phone response - but saying "is that she?" You can't use an object form with a linking verb; you have to use a P.N. You are showing someone a picture of a friend of yours and you say -- this is she and her father on vacation last year. learning English. Reality Check #3:I already spent too much time on this inconsequential topic (compared to the big picture), so this will be my first and last post! I, however, have bones of contention with the approach you've taken. Q1 - She's interested in the idea. How is a 1st person pronoun (I) made to agree with a verb form (is) in the 3rd person -- as in 'That's I', which it would be 'I is that' in reverse? ‘She’ is the nominative form of the word, so it cannot be used to describe somebody who is the object of a sentence (in this example, ‘this’ would be the subject). This is interesting. In fact, you should know that in Singapore, a country in SE Asia, English is its first language. "This is her speaking" is incorrect too. Their answer is not contextually or situationally correct in any way. "This is she" is antiquated but DEFINITELY correct. She Lyrics: She may be the face I can’t forget / A trace of pleasure or regret / May be my treasure or / The price I have to pay / She may be the song that summer sings / May be the chill that Certainly, no one I know speaks that way. Anyone? For coordinated pronouns, see the thesis I linked to. Find out what is the full meaning of SHE on Abbreviations.com! In fact, "This is her and her father" (as my wife would say it) sounds rather awkward to my ears...unless, of course, you are referring to something that is possessed by both her and her father, as in "This is her and her father's boat." Everyone does. Talk with her to make sure that the problem is solved and that it was a one time deal or you really need to find her help. Regarding another of John's comments, I don't find steps 3 or 6 in that link confusing at all; in fact, I find them quite helpful at times. John, this is where you will be interested to know that there are many native speakers of English in Asia, because English is by nature of its easy assimilation of foreign language words an international language. She walked over the meadow, and presently she came upon a baker's oven full of bread, and the loaves cried out to her, 'Take us out, take us out, or alas!   Permalink "Wendy: "This is she. If the traditional rule differs from what people say, that tells me that something is wrong with the rule, not the speakers. No, it takes the objective case because it’s the object of a VERB.   Permalink On the same note, callers never say: "If Jane is in the office, then I really need to speak to SHE." "May I speak to Jane?" 8 votes And while some may think "Me and him are friends" an affront to erudite sensibilities, sure as Hell I ain't deigning to correct a body what says it. Anyone?". 30 votes Talk about absurd. As I say above, from a descriptive point of view, I'm thinking that the subject-object distinction in pronouns is becoming obsolete. Jennifer is right.   Report Abuse. But I don't see how using the English you hear everyday means that no one would understand you. Documentation of this language by Indo-European-speaking anthropologists has come to redefine our understanding of the meaning of "intelligence. Caller: "Hello, is Wendy there?   Permalink   Permalink Language does have rules, and they are largely unconscious rules.   Permalink I'm not saying that "anything goes," I'm saying "look at the relevent evidence."   Permalink In the sentence "If Jane is in the office,>then I really need to speak to her," the proper word is "her" >because it is the object of a preposition. Furthermore, it is an observation that tells us much about social organization and the function of trivia in such organization and nothing about the structure of language. ", "That's a good question, Lia. and "is it understandable? In my opinion and in the opinion of many other usage commentators, "correct" means "what is used by good writers". The idea that because they are interchangeable in FACT, they must be the same GRAMMATICALLY is absurd. They are both acceptable, I think these questions are a good way to determine if something is "right" or not: "do I say it in normal speech?" I answered the call with "this is she". Every individual on earth with the faculty for language creates their own linguistic forms based on an entirely personal set of rules called an idiolect. Linguists may not be concerned with grammar rules, but that doesn't mean that everyone else isn't or shouldn't be. Anonymous,Thank you. So if the query is "which is correct", your response is not germaine. Great stuff, everyone. If "This is she" is grammatical (as the Chicago Manual of Style says) then it isn't consistent with general usage of the verb "be". Although, with the amount of debate on the subject, I don't think anyone has the right to make that strict judgement call, its not like I said "This be her". 34 votes We don't learn our native language in the same way we learn to drive a car. Regardless, if you want to obey the law, you should not speed. Harris does not have biological children, but she does have stepchildren with her husband, Douglas Emhoff. 7 votes When you change the order, you also change the pronouns. Oh - although 'shall' and 'will' remain a bit of a mystery to me! I'm talking about native English speakers: people who have English as a native language, whether they're American, Canadian, British, etc. ""Who are the winners? Additionally, nobody has defined their terms, and after doing several internet searches I still haven't gotten a good definition of what a copulative verb, a coordinated pronoun, or a substituted non-coordinated pronoun are. However, this should not be taken as an absolute rule either for there is a precident in the English language where implied words are not stated and the sentence is still gramatically correct. A more grammatically correct way to say this: "If Jane is in the office, then I really need to speak to HER."   Permalink 20 votes   Permalink IF one intends the elliptical meaning, THEN “I” is correct. At least in some contexts, "shall" has an implied sense of compulsion. In following these rules, I'll end up saying absurd things like: "Who's that in the picture? To those claiming that "it is I" or "this is I" is correct: We say "I AM this," not "I IS this." Just because it sounds funny does not mean it is incorrect. If anything, your assertions make linguistics mostly irrelevant! Why? However, according to the literal meaning of the sentence, “me” is the correct word. The correct situational AND therefor grammatical answer should be to answer the question you are asked. "Repeat the pronoun for emphasis, and it revert to object form: "Me, I am going out.".   Report Abuse. Sarah is beautiful2. Many people don't like it, but that won't stop other people using it. Well, the native americans didn't even speak English. My point is simply that I think it's useful to distinguish between how native speakers use their language, and the opinions of usage commentators. Embed. So if anyone tries to tell you that "This is she" is really their natural way of speaking ... theya) have been dead for several hundred yearsb) are a snobc) have had this rule shoved down their throat by a snob, 107 votes Very soon, if we base the ownership of English grammar rules on the mere size and commonality of the language's occurrence, then you will eventually see both India and China prescribing rules for the rest of the world to follow, including America, Canada and England. Our online discussion forums are the perfect place to quickly get help ", with this response: "Speaking.". Test your knowledge of the English language. Otherwise, I don't disagree. Look at what I did on related ones. You think she's cute, funny, and generally awesome. 1. Thanks AO, for being another voice of reason here. Who is "Karen" and Why Does She Keep Calling the Police on Black Men? with simply "yes", at best, they are guilty of a poor attempt at humor, and at worst, are rude, obnoxious and dull-witted. Merriam-Webster's Concise Dictionary of English Usage gives an overview of the arguments, then says, "Clearly, both the it is I and It's me patterns are in reputable use and have been for a considerable time. >The verb “to be” acts as a linking verb, equating subject and object.   Report Abuse.   Permalink Because again, you have a linking verb. If someone consistently says something that is so egregiously, grammatically incorrect, then, by definition, he or she is not well-educated. English is a different language. Were Chaucer, Spencer and Shakespeare speeding when they used their language? Articles about learning, using and teaching the English language, Therefore, it is her speaking. They shouldn't concern you." How much is “many”? Stilted, atavistic, inflexible hypocrisy! When somebody asks: The ONLY absolutely correct answer that nobody can complain about is. Resources and materials for ESL teachers including free ESL handouts Determining if something is right or not by whether a lot of people you know use it is ridiculous. The verb "to be" links nominative to nominative or accusative to accusative. Speaking a language is such a different activity than driving a car that I don't think your analogy works. users, with no obligation to buy) - and receive a level assessment! Copyright © UsingEnglish.com Ltd. - All rights reserved copula: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copula, 2 votes "IS" is a linking verb, therefore there is a subject and a predicate nominative. I've seen the light: always answer the query "May I speak to X?" 126 votes Notice that the letter S at the end of the verb in the affirmative sentence (because it is in third person) disappears in the question. There is no "object" in the sentence "This is she." I suppose you could call it an idiom, or more likely, snobbery. Further, why should it be so that those 'elite' posters at whom the above broadside was leveled bristle at so-called non-standard patternage, yet feel quite at ease violating, say, the rule of indentation governing the start of a paragraph? Food for thought: San Diego-based consultancy Global Language Monitor (GLM) has noted that new Chinglish expressions are being coined daily in China. These matters may be of social consequence and often are, but that is a social observation and not a linguistic one, because "I drunk" and "It's me" are linguistically on a par with "I drank" and "It's I". He wants to get to the bottom of this!   Permalink   Report Abuse. That's pretty astonishing," said GLM president Paul JJ Payack. Does this REALLY sound correct to anyone? I show him photo. If we don't hold the line then widespread use of "ain't" and "ax" for ask will be our future. 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